VIDEO: Why Sunday Mornings Are Segregated (Race And The Church Series)
There are many reasons why Sunday mornings continue to be the most segregated day of the week. This video excerpt from the documentary, “Baptists and Racism,” attempts to address some of them. We here at Elev8 invite your honest, but respectful comments. Why do you think the Body of Christ remains segregated so many decades after the civil rights movement? We look forward to your thoughts. Remember, the moderator will not post comments that include profanity or that berate or defame any person or group.
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Aint no white man or woman my brotha or sista. These same race of ppl threw mike vic in jail for sum damn puppy dogs and at the same time these ppl make u pay 50 dollars to watch ultimate figths where these men damn near beat each other to death
These white ppl got u celberating their independance but they rally togther to stop KWANZAA
Its 2009 and all they say is color don’t matter when we talk about “jesus” but I aint seen them paint or erect a statue of a black brown or yellow “jesus”. They continue to push the one that’s int their image… WHITE. And none questions this
God is black his wife is black and they children are black. So why in da hell do we keep runnin after false gods. This is why we can’t get out of our condition. Sucking a artificial tittie from a adopted momma and daddy
It has been said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it! We as a people MUST BE DEPROGRAMMED so that we MAY BE REPROGRAMMED! We as a people (read ALL PEOPLE!) must follow God’s principle which says “Love your brother as yourself”. This is but one example. Until we are able to understand, interpret, apply and live the Bible, we are destined to continue the insanity in which we live…..
Why is that we are in this day and age focused on the church being “SEGREGATED” and not the fact that so many churches are postioning themselves to be helpers of the communities in which they exist.
But since we have driven this road here is my two cents. I belong to a racially diverse church and believe that there will be a day when the integration will be complete, but let us consider even the fact the age gaps in churches today. Very rarely in any church do you see a wide spectrum of ages in any one church or even generational churches.
The answer is quite simple we all worship differently & though we are one body we are yet many members. It is hard as a preacher to accomadate every style of worship that may be needed to keep everyone content and thus there are different churches.
Remember a church building is for the fellowship of like believers and if I dont believe in worship the way you do then I am inclined to find a church that does.
Its not about seperation, segregation but rather the ability to praise & worship openly and honestly.
BE BLESSED
It’s even more simple than that…. since religion is a human creation, not an absolute truth, each region has developed their own stories about their famed spook in the sky and their various personifications. Over time, it has been a social thermometer showing each generation what a specific region thinks of another group of people due to whatever the likes and dislikes of their god may be. I really wish the Negro would stop perpetuating the ignorance of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism and find a more spiritually fulfilling way of life other than th bastardized religions placed before us by the multi-level marketers you claim as prophets. Knowledge is the key to any type of salvation from the chains of mental slavery…. Religion is antiquated in the information age… pray to who for what?… Ninja go get it ya doggone self! Don’t waste life waiting on Jesus / Allah / or any other messianic charlatan. Peace and good day.
During jim crow we was segregated by COLOR. U had white only and COLORED only
In south africa u had the same kinda segregation BLANCA which means white or blank and NEGRO or colored
The H U in human means COLOR it comes from the word HUE. So these gentile roman jews aint even humans. And the white boy will tell u that
Jeremiah 10 1-3 and 8. Thus saith the lord do not follow the way of the GENTILE…they cut a tree from the forest and decorate it with silver amd gold…they are dullhearted and FOOLISH. This is god not MAATRA
guys you don’t understand for the fact that all these semblances that you unfortunately embedded on fear!!!! and sadfully you guys do understand all faiths despite your beliefs , religions, and what not is on the foundation of oneness, whether spirituality, feelings, or closeness even with their faith, that it has no limits on such fears and it is going to be so beautiful to see it …slowly unmasked through more talks and segments as such !!!! you’ll see, doesn’t take a genius or rocket scientist, despite religious beliefs or preferences , one groups of people , no different than the other , and no matter what felt, trust me on such , you will all get out of it!!! The human ways of things , embedded on the common foundation of all relgious different and those alike!!!
Take care
See you are all shooting yourselves in the foot as far as i as i see it your so caught up on the words of the bible and not the meaning of the words and and how to treat your fellow human brother or sister with love and respect
Black and white ppl r 180 degrees different it was jesus who said do not go into the way of the gentile… White ppl so if jesus say stay the hell away from the beast stay the hell away and let’s stop trying to get close to these ppl
Its ya comrade MAATRA
THE REASON WHY THE CHURCH IS SEGREGATED IS BECAUSE MAN CHANGED GOD’S WORD. THATS WHY THERE IS SO MANY DIFFERENT RELEGIONS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD TODAY. IF WE WOULD HAVE STICK WITH GOD’S WORD AND DONT CHANGE IT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE PEOPLE WHICH ARE CHRISTIANS CAUSE THE BIBLE SAY THE WE ARE ALL CHRISTIANS. SO WHEN YOU CHANGE GOD’S WORD THAT’S WHEN THE SEGREGATED RACISM AND THE CHURCH WENT WRONG AT. SUNDAY WORSHIP IS THE WRONG DAY ANYWAY. GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH IN 6 DAYS AND RESTED ON THE 7TH DAY, SO THEREFORE SATURDAY IS THE 7TH DAY WHICH IS THE SABBATH. THE SABBATH IS PART OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS,REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY,TO KEEP IT HOLY.EVEN JESUS TEACH ON THE SABBATH. SUNDAY IS THE 1ST DAY OF THE WEEK AND SATURDAY IS THE 7TH DAY WHICH IS THE SABBATH, THAT THE LORD MADE FOR MAN KIND.THE 7TH DAY WHICH IS THE SABBATH IS THE LOST DAY IN HISTORY.
Yo it is possible for religion to be made to keep people unaware that it is contridictions of the typical theory of the Sun’s intense rays admist unconclusive heat.Or other extraterestrial structures and of course more condensed atmospheres.Take a look at it as if the bible could be a set of contridictions or ajetations from a point of who actually is apointing information of it.And also the issue of segegrated churches should not be a accurately constant unstable issue at all.It should be a slight precautioned issue.
Yes, very true. Religion was used to keep the slaves…. well productive slaves. Just like it kept the indentured servants….well indentured…
You don’t want slaves running away, committing suicide or murdering the masters. You want them to accept life and trust in a better “after life” or “Heaven”where they will be rewarded… Where both master and slave will be forgiven for all by just accepting the gently jew as their common savior… You want salves to be mindlessly obedient and to never question authority..
This is a good article blog foreal.
If there is segregation in churches it was started by the black man. lol once african americans became free the majority of them opened their own churches free from their former slavemaster’s church. I have been to white churches (Marvin Gorman)and black ones and they both are the same you have negative and positive people in each.
I am a strong believer in the Lord JESUS CHRIST! I have lived a lifestyle that has fallen short of the glory of GOD like the rest of us. Something that is DEFINATELY important to understand. Is NOT to base your religious judgement on how other people exemplify THEIRSELF! YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD IS BETWEEN YOU AND HIM! However, I believe that I am forgiven! JESUS died for us ALL! There is nothing that is alleviated from the word “ALL”. That means ALL RACES! Reguardless of color, lifestyle, political beliefs, etc. I have attended churches that were mostly hispanic before. Victory Outreach in California to be specific. THET ACCEPTED ME LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! I have attended a church that was mostly caucasian when I was in in my teens with an ex-girlfriend. THEY ACCEPTED ME LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ALSO. A major religious station today is TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network). I would suggest people who are uncontent with this particular situation, to become attentive to them! We are in the last days. The BIBLE speaks of the things that are existing right now as I type and you read this. Being skeptical of religion is to excercise atheist intentions. In Matthew Chapter 6, there is a prayer. Verse 12 says,”And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors”. WE HAVE TO FORGIVE IN ORDER TO BE FORGIVEN! If the world took these 4 Sundays/5. To visit churches mostly made up of another ethnicity, prayed together with faith in the Lord AND BELIEVED! This world would be a better place! It’s the devil that is saying that it won’t.
I don’t think it’s a matter of it being segregated. I know my family attend churches that they’ve been attending for generations. As such, my parents attend different churches. There have been white people there, no big deal. And the predominately white churches go knocking on doors frequently inviting people to attend their churches. My entire time away at university I either attended a White Methodist church right across from my dorm or went to afternoon Bible study groups with mostly Asians.
If a person isn’t welcome into church, then it isn’t really a House of God and no one needs to be their anyways. That simple.
I attend a culturally mixed church. When I found my home church, I loved how open and welcoming everyone was. There was no preferential treatment, it was only about God and the word. Period. All cultures are respected and celebrated. I don’t believe we will be segregated in heaven and on the judgement day except by one factor. SIN and Non Acceptance of ChRist. Not by race.
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slavery in america (christianity)
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Blacks still holding on to the slave master’s religion. The white man told you that Jesus was white…you put up pictures in your homes. He put books in the bible, you read it…he took books out of the bible..you didn’t question it…He kept you from reading the bible…you accepted it. Leave the white man’s religion alone.
Of all the history lessons that i had and the bible teachings that i went to, were we not separated into different races somewhere in the period of old testament…I vaguely remember this, but an arrogant king challenged god and shot and arrow into the sky…God got angry and divided the people and gave the different tongues…the people who were once a whole was divided into different groups and had to identify their new tongue with others alike….my point is segegration occurs for a reason and had yet to be dissolved…it’s hard to make even the slightest changes because of significant forces such as segregation is yet to be reckoned with…however, I personally would feel comfortable going to a church that teaches what Jesus had been teaching durin his time…to love one another as God would love us…yet it’s so much easier to identify with a church of my color..so i am currently attending a black church…also, Im sorry to say that live in a part of louisiana where racism and segregation is still thriving…i also attend a dominantly black college, and live in a black neighbor…never talk to many white people unless on the job…now think about why i say this…this is what i have been socially, emotionally, physically, spiritually, cognitively, psychologically and environmentally taught to do…to change anyone of these takes education and persistence…now it’s extremely sad to say that many people in this world are not very understanding of what racism can really do to a person, better yet, a whole generation…so while i believe that change is possible, someone would have to take every single one of us, deprogram us, and let us start all over again…but we cant do that yeat…sssooo…THIS WILL ALWAYS AND TRULY BE THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGe and THE MOST DIFFICULT, until then, I will prefer to go to a black church….:) still, i will have faith and do my best to treat everyone with respect and care for other people because i believe that can always help out a little bit at a time….intil then, keep the faith
It proves a point in the hypocrisy in religion. Religion was used to keep slaves from being rebelious actually. The Bible has been rewritten so many times and books have been left outta the new testament. What’s there to believe basically?
The Church has been segregated for hundreds of years, not only that but the esoteric and exoteric sects have always been sequestered from each other as well. Religion = Separatism, the ideology in itself is separatist if this person doesn’t believe this, this, and this, shun him. The Old Testament has tales of people burning down pagan villages, raping their women, destroying their buildings, making slaves of their children etc.. You can’t honestly expect something with a history of ubiquitous violence to suddenly have solidarity and become passive.
The Lord rest on the seventh day and called it the Sabbath and he said keep the Sabbath day holy but ppl go to church on Sunday oppose to Saturday and we all know Sunday is the beginning of the week on all calendars.
Because, christians are the most hypocritical, phony, fake, retarded, confused people in the country.
LOL…I segregate myself from church…ignorance, irrational, hippocrisy, stupid & i’m allergic to that stuff
The old white man was the most honest when he called it racism. I’m glad I don’t go to church..I can’t imagine feeling comfortable with being a racist in church.
Churches are built in the communities in which they serve. People worship in the style they are use to, it is a culture thing. Even within the races, there are different denominations that worship differently. Personally I love a Holy Spirt filled church,you can feel the spirit, however growing up, if Sister Smith/Jones, would have fallen out in church, I might have thought someone should call 911. I think people should worship where they are comfortable at. The true Church is in our hearts. Praise the Lord.
Since i came in states – coming from Africa this year – to live here, I’ve been attending a church from assembly of God in my town. this church is white in the majority, but i really like my church and really feel like home (in God’s house). True, they don’t have activities and programs that you can find in a “black” church. But i think this pastor is fulfilling the call of multiracial worship. The body of Christ must be embodied in universality of people that compose it. I think that racial issues have nothing to do in church, otherwise we’re disobedient as our Lord asks us to love each other.
My assumption to the question at hand is on that of which every racial culture out there finds a comfort zone in a church, depending on the need of what they themselves are looking for. Those individual who are more historically inclined will depend on finding a church(comfort zone) to which tailors to his beliefs. Others whose point in religion is to congregate do not worry where but just do. History has played a vital role in answering this question. It is not neccessaraly a objectivity of being black or white not hispanic, latino asian or any other racial ethnicity, but more leaning to how we think and percieve what religion should be.
As the video suggested, I don’t believe it to be about the races, it’s a Cultural thing. I am of mixed races.
I have both Caucasians and African Americans in my family.
I choose to attend both churches. One that is almost an all white congregation and I also attend one that is almost entirely an all black congregation.
Since we are all bothers and sisters through Christ, the bottom line is our love for each other should be colored blind. Love conquers all.
“Love knows no limit to its endurance, no end to its trust, no fading of its hope; it can outlast anything. It is, in fact, the one thing that still stands when all else has fallen.”
1 Corinthians 13:7-8
As the video suggested, I don’t believe it to be about the races, it’s a Cultural thing. I am of mixed races. I have both Caucasians and African Americans in my family.
I choose to attend both churches. One that is almost an all white congregation and I also attend one that is almost entirely an all black congregation.
Since we are all bothers and sisters through Christ, the bottom line is our love for each other should be color blind. Love conquers all.
“Love knows no limit to its endurance, no end to its trust, no fading of its hope; it can outlast anything. It is, in fact, the one thing that still stands when all else has fallen.”
1 Corinthians 13:7-8
wake up black people!!! its on the money, In God we trust, theres nothing there about in you we truth…..HUMMM….no where in history has a group people no matter how advanced they thought they were has been without war or oppression, and it wont be us either,not until everyone is a shade of brown and God comes back will we have peace as a people…..wake up blackpeople and shop in your neihborhood, check the tags…..
ppl r more comfortable with their own. I knw Chicago i dnt tink its b cause ppl r racist bt i believe b cause of the setup no white guy or white family will come all the way from the north side to stony island to hear Rev. Ragland pray at Third Baptist.
Altho pastors and leaders should be held accountable for what they do and say we as people must learn to look to God for His divine will, guidance and direction. I have been saved for over 10yrs and I have been hurt in church because i put my trust too much in man and nor enuff in the God I serve. We study the leaders more than we study the Word of God and that shouldn’t be. We put our trust in man who is prone to error and then we have the nerve to blame God. IMO, man made doctrine has musch to do with why the body of Christ is so separated. People take a piece of scripture and manipulate it to say what they want it to say and then find people who don’t know scripture to follow them and BAM a new doctrine is born. I follow no one’s doctrine, I live by the Word of God and His directions. I do have a covering but he or she is not the authoringand finisher of my faith.
I believe that Sunday meetings have been segragated for so long because black people have always seemed to worship GOD in such a way that other people just can’t understand. We worshiped Christ like this for years. We sang/cried out to our lord when we were in slavery days and on. There are white folks, Indian folks and so on that worship like us and than there are some that think we are over the top and choose to woship in a different way. That is fine. I don’t believe we ask for the separation. We gladly welcome everyone to worship with us. I guess it brings you to think about when white people didn’t want us to be a part of their world. There was always separation, so with that, we worshiped alone and only with each other because we weren’t allowed to mix with other’s so that’s the way it was for so long that it stayed that way. Black people are a different culture of people and we can identify with one another. White people can identify with white people. Indians can identify with other Indians. That’s just the way it is. Different cultures indentify with their own culture.